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Found moist snow that was starting to freeze on solar's in Hyalite at 8000' Friday. Went searching for better conditions up Specimen Creek today. The snow quality was much better at similar aspects and elevations. Northerly aspects stayed dry in both zones but I was curious about the difference in the two advisory areas. Looking at temps from weather stations the southern range has been 10f to 15f degrees cooler.
Stability was much different as well. In Hyalite, the nsf layer that was formed in late January, looked to be rounding and didn't produce propagating results or clean shears. Up Specimen I had an ECTP15 and a CT15 Q1 on the same layer. This certainly aligns with the forecast.
On a ridge up Specimen, winds were moderate from the SW and shifted SE in the evening. I did find thin reactive wind slabs and cracking in fresh drifts. Wind was actively transporting on the ridge. I felt wind loaded slopes had the greatest potential to slide since sheltered slopes only had a 25cm slab over the weak layer but I avoided avalanche terrain regardless.
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Saw a recent cornice triggered wind slab off of Hardscrabble Peak, crown looked fairly fresh. There was a second crown line below the rock band. Conditions were very windy, with snow still being transported. Most snow surfaces were wind affected, but saw no cracking or collapsing.
Full Snow Observation ReportWe skied in Maid of the Mist basin today. Solars had a sun crust preventing much snow from drifting, although the constant moderate winds out of the west were trying their best. We found multiple windslab pockets in the Fat and Skinny Maid, though these seemed fairly stubborn and were not propagating. Found some well developed (4-5 mm) basal facets in the talus of the Skinny Maid as well, and although we saw no signs of instability on this layer they are something to watch out for in steep thin terrain.
No recent avalanche activity visible except some loose wets and small cornice fall from the prior warm sunny days.
Full Snow Observation ReportCan confirm, it was blowing in the Bridgers. Up high it was still cool enough that a fair amount of snow was moving around, especially further north. Clouds of snow were coming off of the ridges and moving through the bowls near Fairy Lake and Fraiser divide. Around the of the Throne and in the mid elevations we found better, more sheltered snow conditions. The area around Ross Peak was very scoured. We saw a handful of small point releases on steep south slopes, likely from Friday, but no other recent avalanche activity. By mid-day/early afternoon, the snow lower down in the woods was getting pretty heavy and wet and anywhere with the slightest bit of sun exposure was developing a crust. Talked to a few skiers who toured in the Naya Nuki area, and they described variable snow and very windy conditions.
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From email: "One of my crew was partially buried in an avalanche today(head about 1’ down, leg and arm still above snow) at approximately 13:10 hrs. Slope was greater than 35 degrees, crown approximately 85 yards wide, over 3’ at its thickest point. I believe it was a NE exposure with wind loading at the top. I had a bad feeling about this slope and mentioned it to my crew and avoided riding on it until one rider ran out of gas and I had to help him. Upon completion of task, I rode back to a spot that wasn’t as safe a vantage point as what I had previously stayed at, but the intention was we were all on our way out. So I parked and within 30 seconds, I hear my friend yelling behind me. I turn and immediately think “oh he’s about to hit us”. So, I attempted to start up my sled, to no avail While watching behind me. Suddenly, a massive “snow cloud” appeared about 30 yards above him and it took about 2-4 seconds to register that it was an avalanche and not another rider careening out of control at us. By that time, it was too late to do anything. The avalanche had reached the back of my friend and my sled, pushing us forward about 6 feet at 3-4mph. After it stopped, I assessed 3 of four of our team was accounted for, and one (the one who yelled at us) was not. He was partially buried by the front of the avalanche much like our sleds were. Fortunately, within 5 seconds, I saw an arm and a leg sticking out of the snow and we had his airway and head cleared within about 20 seconds. He was located approximately 10 yards from us. "
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From IG story. "Cornice triggered persistent on a protected north face up Suce Creek. 3-4 ft deep. Absarokas are not like the Bridgers, Gallatins, etc. A few weeks ago we found the entire snowpack to be faceted top to bottom in Mill Creek...."
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From IG message: "We remotely triggered this hillside in Taylor's fork yesterday [2/21] from the Ridgeline above it. We were looking for a safe spot to drop down when it released below us. Circled around for some pictures. The snow was pretty shallow, only 2-3 feet deep, and slid to the ground. South facing slope"
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Clear skies, sunshine and great visibility today allowed us to cover a lot of ground in the Southern Madisons. We traveled up the Taylor Fork to the weather station in Sunlight Basin, over to the head of Carrot Basin, through Sage Basin and up and over into Cub and Cabin Creeks.
Winds were light all day and only picked up later in the afternoon, gusting moderately from the south in the parking lot. Solar aspects moistened in the upper 1-2" of the snowpack, but we noted minimal signs of wet snow instability.
We came to the Taylor Fork searching for signs of instability from persistent weak layers and wind slabs, and we found both. We saw up to five recent avalanches from the last few days. 1-2 looked to have failed on PWLs, and the rest were wind slabs. Cornice collapses triggered at least two of these avalanches.
Outside of recent avalanches, a few other red flags jumped out at us. While traversing to our pit site in Sunlight Basin, we triggered a whumpfing collapse and a shooting crack up to 100' long across an adjacent slope. This snowpit on a SE aspect was made up of a dense slab of recent snow, sitting on top of many different layers of junky, faceted grains. Propagation was easy to find (ECTP 11, HS: 112). We also dug snowpits on N and SW facing slopes. While we found weak snow on these slopes, the N (ECTPX) and SW (ECTP25), the snowpack was deeper in both areas and the weak layers were less developed. When compared to what Alex and Mark found three weeks ago in this area, these instabilities are becoming less widespread and more stubborn to trigger, but an avalanche breaking on these weak layers is still possible.
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Skied the Bacon Rind Skillet on 2/21 based on the GNFAC's good report from their snow pit on 2/19 and had no signs of instability. Wind on 2/21 was from the SE and was moving some snow around down low (filled in the old skin track) but things were sheltered in the trees. Not much drifting in the meadows towards the top either. There was a thin melt/freeze crust formed on solar aspects lower down (up to ~500 feet above the parking). We were there from about 10:00 - 14:00 and it was cloudy all day, the snow never got very wet or heavy.
Full Snow Observation ReportSooooo many pin wheels coming down in the Gallatin canyon today on my way home from work. I was driving and couldn't get a full look, but half way through the canyon, it looked like a whole, relatively small, slope slid, maybe propagated 50-75ft on the west facing side of the road.
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Today we observed a couple day old wind slabs in steep SW facing terrain on Mt Zimmer. Also, a wet loose occurred sometime today between 11-2 pm on S facing terrain nearby
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Mark, Dave and Brian DiLenge from IDPR rode up Denny Creek and out across below Lionhead Ride. Fog and low clouds made visibility tough but we bounced along the treelines and felt our way across to Moto Hill and back.
Important stuff first. As we approached our second pit site on the lip of Moto Hill (southeast aspect at 8600'), I stopped and looked back in time to see avalanche debris slamming into the trees on a connected slope below. We remotely triggered the avalanche from 150 feet away. It broke 200' wide and 1-3 feet deep. It ran an estimated 200' vertical feet (based on a slope map. We couldn't safely access the toe of the debris). The avalanche failed on a layer of Fist hard facets. This is interesting because it is these mid-elevation slopes in the LH area that seemed really weak on previous visits to the area. The slope may have some wind-loading, but it was minimal and not the cause of this avalanche.
We dug a pit on an east aspect around the corner and down from Airplane Bowl (before the avalanche) and found a similar snowpack setup. 150 cm of total snow and half was composed of weak facets. ECTP22 and P24 on the mid-pack January layer of Fist hard facets and surface hoar.
Take Homes:
- Lionhead seems to be the epicenter of persistent slab instability. It is the weakest I have seen. Southern Madison and Southern Gallatin seem to be similar and I would group them together when describing conditions.
- Mid-elevation slopes are thin and weak and can clearly avalanche. This is problematic because many folks play in lower elevation terrain when conditions are dangerous... While small compared to the upper bowl, the avalanche we triggered would have been deadly. It was deep and it would have strained its victim through trees.
- We heard about a similar remote-triggered avalanche in Black Canyon today. This has me nervous that I missed something in the Centennials. While we didn't see anything too concerning there yesterday outside of wind-loaded slope, I am not happy about two remotely triggered slides less than 20 mile away.

From SnoWest Forums FB Page:
“Just getting word of a LARGE Remote Rider Triggered Slab Avalanche down inside of Black Canyon itself just off the Black Canyon Loop Trail in Island Park.
A 3-4ft thick slab broke loose and filled the bottom of the canyon with 12-15 FEET of debris, completely blocking off the canyon itself. Rider was NOT caught in it!! Had the rider been caught, there would have been ZERO chance of rescue under such a deep slide!”

No wind today, but recent loading
Note from BB ski patrol - skiers triggered a medium sized cornice fall that triggered a dry loose (sluff) avalanche that created large powder cloud.
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From IG - "Toured out to Frazier Basin and turned around seeing widespread avalanches and active wind loading. Despite our pits on the Throne the day before showing no weak layers, the amount of wind loading and potential for slabs over density changes gave us pause. Good skiing and sledding down low."
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Skied up the southern of the two typical Bacon Rind skintracks (through the more heavily burned area to the upper meadows). Saw no signs of instability (no cracking, collapsing, or recent avalanches).
Dug a pit on an E aspect at 8800 ft in one of the upper meadows. 128 cm snow depth. No propagation in an Extended Column Test. There is weak snow at the ground, but it isn't super well developed or very weak (4 Finger minus hardness).
No wind affect where we traveled today.
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We got lucky in the Centennials with great snow and good visibility. There was about 20" of new snow from this weekend's storm. We covered 35 miles of backcountry riding and got eyes on a lot of avalanche terrain from lower elevation slopes, to Jefferson Bowl, the terrain in and above Hellroaring Creek, and East Hotel Creek. We didn't see any avalanche activity. However, we observed shooting cracks in drifts and triggered small wind-loaded slopes and cornices. So, human-triggered avalanches on wind-loaded slopes are likely.
We dug three quick pits but prioritized getting eyes on terrain over in-depth snowpack analysis:
Low-elevation slope on Sawtelle - NE @ 7600' on a slope with no wind effect: ECTX in a 160 cm deep pit
Above Hellroaring - S @ 8400' on a wind loaded slope: ECTP1 6" deep (wind slab) and ECTP21 20" deep (wind slab)
Arange - SW @ 8700' non-wind-loaded slope: ECTP21 20" deep on facets below a melt-freeze crust
Travel Advice:
- Avoid wind-loaded slopes
- While stability on non-wind-loaded slopes seemed good, it snowed a lot. So, I would either carefully assess for instability in the upper 3 feet of the snowpack with an ECT , or I would give it a few days to settle out before getting on steeper, non-wind-loaded slopes.
The danger was CONSIDERABLE on wind-loaded slopes (human-triggered avalanches likely) and MODERATE in non-wind-loaded terrain (human-triggered avalanches possible).
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Deep snowpack in the Crazy Mountains and seemingly strong. It seems that the snowpack in the Crazies is typically weak, shallow, and sketchy. This year the snowpack is quite deep - crazy!
We saw one soft, storm slab and a few sluffs. We didn't get onto slopes steeper than 30 degrees, but we felt ok traveling in runout zones which says a lot.
Winds were drifting some snow in the alpine but otherwise mostly calm. Tons of snow available for the wind when it finally picks up
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Cornice broke in between north and south saddle peaks. The initial propagation width was hard to distinguish. Maybe 50 feet. About 18 inches deep at height of crown.
Skied down Rocky Rib and then into south east facing trees that follow the path. At the Argentina/ Shushmans traverse elevation there was a visible 2 foot wall and the slide had continued over the roll below.
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Cohesive wind slabs roughly 1 foot deep were triggered between middle peak and the going home chute on the northeast aspect. Upon skiers weight shooting cracks traveled roughly 100 feet to trigger a small avalanche. The size was small as only the top 50 feet of the slope slid but the snow from the avalanche carried down the entire face.
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